Obama strategist David Axelrod in phone interview with MSNBC:

On debate-about-debates: Clinton “would love to have us tied up in a TV studio debating the rest of the campaign.”

On possible stalemate: “I think there will be a frontrunner. . . . someone who has accumulated more delegates.”

Said superdelegates would be persuaded by electability.

Denied he is like Karl Rove – said Rove has not had a “wholesome influence” on American politics.